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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:52 am    Post subject: general rumblings about Kent 50 Mile Challenge Reply with quote

Well, it has finally arrived...gulp....

List of Benfleet Runners taking part:

Graham Booty
Jez Mancer
Lucy Mancer
Paddy Mancer
Gary Jacketts
Karl Cadman


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

latest email update from the organisers included:

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We have been unable to get the hay off the field and it's completly water logged

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It's still possible that it will be hot and humid - dehydration could become a problem (even if it's not hot).

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We will also be supplying ice cubes and electrolytic drinks during the day.

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If you want to get drinks, food or use the toilets at the end of each lap then do so before going to the control point at the start of your next lap.


http://www.50milechallenge.co.uk


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

never smirk at the advice on carrying TP in plastic bag......look after your bowels and they will look after you.....................
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck over the weekend

If last nights navigation skills around GORC ( Hockley Woods ) are anything to go by

YOU’RE NEED IT

Remember to take a compass

( and a friend who knows how to use it !!!!! )

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't actually count taking an extra 1 mile thro' the woods with three females "getting lost" OK ?

It's a tough job, but someone has to do it......
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Karl, What can I say.............Jammy so and so?
shins still giving me slight probs from not being used except on flat work. I blame Jez for not putting in a few hills for my marathon training. He may reply that i wasnt 'up to it'. Oh well, Anadin and ibuprofen mousse work well for me
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MM2, yep plenty of jam, but no f*cking biscuits.

It has been said I do go the extra mile....
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unlike MM1, who goes the extra 6 miles

Was *I* supposed to bring the biscuits? I seem to recall that I was being treated to some biscuits for my 1st PB.

Did I mention I got a PB yet?

Fed up already huh?

lol
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck y'all

Be thinking of you
cheers
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you only ran an extra mile …..

Yet my group finished over 10 minutes before you arrived

Either :

You were running slower than us ( very possible )
You detoured for far more than 1 mile ( quite possible )
Or there’s some un-allocated time here, which you don’t want to disclose ( interesting )

Could this controversy rival that of the infamous Benfleet Biscuit Crum Trail

Theories Please
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mikey: First and foremost you have too much time on your hands to be making comments when you could be doing the merit table. Enough said on that now.

My theory: They stopped for biscuits, ate them all, which slowed them down considerably thus losing time and the way. However, un-allocated time does sound interesting. Who were the (un)lucky ladies in tow? *smirk*
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldn't say lucky

And stop answering my posts when I log on to do MT work !!!!!

Frustrated Of GORC
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're lucky he's anwsered it at all, more than you've done for mine. I'm going to have a punching competiton with you. I've asked Stevie to deliver my punch for me, and you can return yours by whacking Steve. (Tight git won't go halves with me on me book.)
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel it is time to quash the rumours and tittle tattle and give the true account of the Hockley run.

Jo Sarah and myself confidently left the leadership to our coach and ace navigator Karl.

He felt that a mere 6 miles was a trifle and not adequate preparation for a 50 miler at the weekend. He felt we should undertake a few more circuits to make it worth setting foot outside the door. Besides which we needed to run the route in reverse after completing it the correct way as there were rumours flying about that Mikey's group had taken a short cut as they were the only group running in the opposite direction to every other group.

Suspicions were borne out as we could not find them anywhere despite carrying out a very thorough search of the entire woods - several times.

And I might add that Karl was just far too modest to reveal the true extent of the length of our run. Jo Sarah and I all agreed that it was in fact 9 miles and with my fine distance measuring equipment (my guess-o-meter) I can say the actual distance covered was approximately 9.235 miles. All at just under 7 minute mile pace - not bad eh??

(and we stopped to eat the trifle after 6 miles - it was jammy with a few biscuits crumbled over it).
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Karl C wrote:
I don't actually count taking an extra 1 mile thro' the woods with three females "getting lost" OK ?

It's a tough job, but someone has to do it......


M8, you didn't get lost again running through a wooded area. Isn't that 2 weeks on the trot? It's lucky I wasn't with you, otherwise we'd be there for days!

Good luck to you and the others for this Sunday - will be thinking of you.

Simon
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck to Karl and all......if you read about anyone being airlifted over the weekend lost on Scafell Pike/Hellvellyn etc I will do you all proud by wearing my Benfleet Vest and the shorts with ' the caring club - my arse' tailored on them.

rgds
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was watching “Life On Mars” – 1st series repeat - BBC 4 ( Monday Night )

Apparently the in the ‘70’s the first witness to talk did it “Bang Too Rights”

Looks like Jo & Sarah are in the clear then

As for Young Debbie …….. 7:00 minute mileing …. You have to smell a Rat

Thinking about it

Jo seemed incredibly relieved to be back
Sarah had a content smile on her face

As for Debbie, can’t quite remember, seemed to slip off into the background

Strange that

Theories Please
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

one thing I am sure of is that MJ does manage to hijack every thread and send it off at a tangent.....
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Karl

How did it go ? ......... Legs sore ?

Did you spot the brown carpi in the car park on Tuesday ?

Life On Mars .............. Spooky
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck everyone for sunday Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck to you all!

Jez, Dont let Graham beat you.
Lucy, carefull not to trip ove Paddy.
Paddy, Keep out of Lucy's way.
Graham, Dont let Jez beat you.
Karl, Good luck on your run. Is it your first?
Gary, No need to wish you luck mate, its only a training run for you.

Finally, Don't let the B**tards grind you down!!

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Mike,

you forget

Karl - don't let Paddy beat you !

This will be my first ultra geek
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing like jumping in at the deep end then
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep - "jumping" and "deep end" do come to mind.

as do

"arse" and "elbow" as i don't really know what I am doing..but hey, it's only two marathons, just back-to-back.

My original plan was to get to 40 miles to celebrate my 40th birthday
(not sure if you heard about that last month, ask Mikey)

but as the weeks have gone on I am now mentally ready to do the 50 miles

time will tell...

I will be texting updates on all our runners back to base camp and getting them to update the forum as and when they can, on the pfficial thread here...

http://benfleetrunningclub.myfastforum.org/about503.html
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awww i did hear some rumours about that.

What is it about us runners who do strange things to celebrate their birthdays

Look forward to the updates and the very best of luck
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, talking of birthdays. Not sure if my wife is a runner or not yet. She did her first 10k on 8th July and regularly runs 1 lap of Hockley woods (some 2 to 3 miles?). My point is.....she wanted all of her close friends to join us on a 50th birthday party. Simple enough? No. ............Its on a caribbean cruise in October. Guess what..........18 of them are coming with us. Now thats going to be some booze cruise.
Yes Jez, Mike (MM2) will be actively back on the consumption of the dreaded booze. Doesnt do Graham any harm does it? lol
Oh well, it will only be for 2 weeks in total.............

Anyhow, good luck again

Mike

PS Karl, you can do it, just keep your legs moving. Think of the grief MM1 will give you if you fail

Look forward to the updates.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck to all of you taking part in this. You are all crazy but you have my utmost admiration for taking on such an awesome challenge. I know you will all do Benfleet proud bounce bounce bounce
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best of luck Karl (and the others, obviously),

50 miles eh, mentally ready or just mental? Is there some sort of 'Cult of Ultra' that is insidiously spreading throughout our CCMA (Caring Club My Arse)?

I've noticed that a common side effect of Ultra Running appears to be a loss of direction (and biscuits). Personally I'm happy being able to find/eat biscuits and hence will stick to anything up to (wimpish) marathon distance.

Very impressed with all you Ultra people (and dogs) do the CCMA proud cheers .

Cheers,

John.

PS Karl - if you want to give my techy side some training I'll happily be someone you can text to update the forum.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the encouragement Mike. And glad to hear about your impending cruise. Ensure you do plenty of training beforehand, you want to be last man standing. If you need a training partner?

Not feeling at all confident about Sunday. The full distance will be too much with Sherbone 5 weeks later....but kinda feel I ought to have a good go at it. Legs really ache too, already been moaning to Karl. Why is it when I run a short race really hard my legs are worse than when I run a marathon? Coach? You got an answer? Yes I did warm down and stretch. Dont suppose it could have been a skinful of Becks immediately after do you? In my defence it was all free...and I didn't smoke. God bless smoke free pubs!!!

And I haven't even mentioned my coccyx. Hell's teeth but it bloody hurts following a minor bike accident a couple of weeks ago. And it seems to be getting worse not better, although thankfully it does go numb after a few miles of running or cycling so as long as I dont try and sit down at any point on Sunday I should be OK.

Right. That's all my excuse laid out. Jez, you're up next.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I plead metal instability..

John, thanks.
I will include you in my "text-circle" with updates for posting on the official forum (which I will unlock once Mikey has logged off...lol)
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My understanding is its 30miles for a certificate and a medal. I have a plan that says 30 is quite enough for a day and a significant injury history.

Paddy says "if its ot im sittin in de pub wiv dem ladies wot feed me biscuits and sez im cute coz eat stroke is not gud for us dogs"

Paddys longest run to date is 18miles and the last time I ran over 11 was in March.

so Karl we are not competition!!!

My aim is 30 depending on the left leg I may sneak in another lap or two to encourage others and to be home for lunch!

Anyone camping overnight?????
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PS Dont want to worry you Graham but coccyx are quite easily to break. I used to work with a guy whos wife broke hers by falling on her bum snowboarding.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PPS Graham

Short races use different energy systems ie more anaerobic = greater lactate; more pressure on ligaments and muscles and joints as you are going quicker; more fast twitch than slow twitch muscles. Long races are the opposite.

My betting is you are used to doing a bloody hell of a lot for a long time on a fairly steady impact but not used to running fast over a short distance ie lots of track work.

Try 6-8 x 200 absolutely flat out on a track one day with long recoveries (3min) youll ache nearly as much as after a marathon the next day. If you did that regularly youd find short races easier but then if your aim is a long race its not really that much use compared to other sessions. Make sure you warm up and down and dont pull anything as thats the risk and the reason why you ache!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im only bothered that our dog has turned into jamaican speaking dog!

Paddy says "if its ot im sittin in de pub wiv dem ladies wot feed me biscuits and sez im cute coz eat stroke is not gud for us dogs"
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Lucy. Feeling better. And yes I'm camping. I'm staying in the pub car park in my campervan, it's a beige piece of s**t, you can't miss it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GRAHAM,

don't forget coffee at 5.15am please, one sugar.

I will bring the Jaffa Cakes....
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Karl,
You sure you will find your way?
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